tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4865004314650777465.post5648735712014810855..comments2023-10-28T11:12:02.164-04:00Comments on The Philosopher Mom: Life of Julia 2.0Erika Ahernhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11477804033751036631noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4865004314650777465.post-54594869597736689252012-05-09T08:32:16.188-04:002012-05-09T08:32:16.188-04:00Elizabeth - "just because you do not agree wi...Elizabeth - "just because you do not agree with Obama and what he represents does not give you a free pass to make a mockery of his policies..." - sorry to break it to you sister, but free speech is one of the great BEAUTIES of being American!! I am ALL for civil dialogue, but the PhilMom takes up the "form" used by our Commander in Chief and cleverly lobs it back over the net in similar fashion. It's a "genre" used to make some challenging points and turn it on its head. And, kind or unkind, our leaders and citizens have been "making a mockery" of our leaders' "policies" for the last 3 centuries! Check out the way the founding fathers wrote about each other...! :) <br /><br />Anonymous II - I'd just like to call you out on your tactics - you ask PhilMom (sarcastically) not to shame other women - yet you tell her she "should be ashamed of herself." Let's aim for the Golden Rule - the one found in every civilzation's moral code throughout history. <br /><br />Both - the manner of writing of an author cannot be taken to represent the way one would treat a person they meet face-to-face. Writing serves an altogether different purpose - and political debate and discourse with the leaders who make policies (and/or with citizens opining with regard to them). I would also challenge both of you, assuming you are Obama supporters, to take a second look at "choice" and whether his policies REALLY allow for the choices, across the board, that the whole range of women and families across society desire and deserve to choose from. I, for one, fear deeply that my own chosen path is about to be taken from me from the government I have heretofore trusted. <br /><br />Many blessings to you both. <br /><br />-Lauren in VermontLPatterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01513484184251700148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4865004314650777465.post-17085152215951889042012-05-08T16:42:30.865-04:002012-05-08T16:42:30.865-04:00As I general observation I found both accounts of ...As I general observation I found both accounts of Julia's life a little "snarky" but I think that was the point. Personally I agree with Erica because: <br />1. Obama can't serve a 64 year term so if he wanted to illustrate how his policies effect women he should have talked about Julia, her mother and her daughter within a 4 or 8 year window. <br />2. Many not for profit organizations are already helping women and children achieve a successful fulfilling life with the Catholic church being one of these organizations. Many of these organizations are finding their hands tied due to legislation under the Obama administration making the Government the sole provider of assistance for women and children. This is economically detrimental and is costly in terms of personal freedom.<br /><br />as for Anonymus II...what about all of the married men and women who are underpaid? What if a woman wants to be a stay at home mom? Is there no freedom to make this choice? Sadly there are many instances of women and children being mistreated. How is the government assisting men in supporting these women? Throwing them in Jail? It seems to be working great ;) There are two sides to every argument and I thank Erica for providing such a great counterpart to Obama's "Life of Julia"<br /><br />One final pondering...where are all the men in her life?sparkynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4865004314650777465.post-11943011191459429972012-05-08T15:27:55.215-04:002012-05-08T15:27:55.215-04:00Dear Anonymous II,
I'm not sure where I have...Dear Anonymous II, <br /><br />I'm not sure where I have ever suggested that "the Church" will provide for all of my material needs. I also don't know that I've ever chronicled for you where our family's charitable donations go (the whole "right hand, left hand" thing), so I'm not sure why you think I DON'T support single mothers financially. Finally, it's odd that you accuse me of being "well-to-do," but I can see why you would assume that. If you could cite for me those blog posts where I've mentioned any of these facts, please let me know and I will correct them.<br /><br />Finally, yes. I was being snarky and that is unattractive. In this space, I have often said things that offend someone (you should see that post on demographics!), and I tend to leave those posts up as a reminder to myself of why I'm Catholic. I need that confessional like no one else. <br /><br />Thanks for reminding me again to be forgiven. I hope you can forgive me, too.<br /><br />~The Philosopher MomErika Ahernhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11477804033751036631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4865004314650777465.post-9106577618101905362012-05-08T15:24:03.544-04:002012-05-08T15:24:03.544-04:00Elizabeth,
I'm sorry you felt offended by th...Elizabeth, <br /><br />I'm sorry you felt offended by this fictionalized account of the fictional Julia. I am sarcastic sometimes (and this is one of my greatest weaknesses), and I'm sure you can relate to this tendency. I'm very glad that not every HeadStart student spends so little time with her parents! Thanks for setting the record straight.Erika Ahernhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11477804033751036631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4865004314650777465.post-91179281794162126932012-05-08T14:26:06.771-04:002012-05-08T14:26:06.771-04:00I dont necessarily agree with Obama's version,...I dont necessarily agree with Obama's version, but to make up your own snarky version specifically adding in connotations to the Catholic Church seems a bit hypocritical, at the very least. I find it amusing that you good Catholic women seem to believe The Church will provide for you, but where does the church come up with money ? Right from "donations" from the patrons of the church itself, without which they wouldn't be able to support themselves, as Church and State are separate they wont be receiving any handouts from the government, which is obviously frowned upon by much more moral and well do to women as yourself. You seem to forget the THOUSANDS of women who are left by their husbands every year, or beaten and forced to file charges, and who took the stay at home mother path because they believed in and and are now forced to work 80 hours a week at 2 jobs and STILL require government subsidies. You should be ashamed of yourself for such a weak minded and ill thought diatribe. Instead of writing out this farce of a post maybe you could have been helping the single parent down the street, or i dunno, staging some protest rally at your local abortion clinic. Im sure those women need more reminders of the failures that they are as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4865004314650777465.post-65447107478636089602012-05-08T14:02:46.700-04:002012-05-08T14:02:46.700-04:00In response to the last comment...Elizabeth, I am ...In response to the last comment...Elizabeth, I am truly sorry you found the post offensive. Any time one wades into politics or religion it's so hard not to offend someone! I have been the offender and the offended multiple times!! But, to offer some perspective in light of your comment, I believe the Philosopher Mom was trying to show how the current administrations policies are actually REMOVING choice. The United States cannot remain saddled in the debt it is and expect to take on massive more debt with all of these government funded programs that aim to help but which actually in the long run end up being detrimental to individual persons, families, and society. One only has to look at what is happening in Europe right now to see the ramifications of such policies. It seems selfish to not want a government to support these policies but the idea is really saying let local programs, charities, communities, and churches reach out to those who are needing help. Currently, the Obama administration's policies are preventing even these organizations from helping. And the Head Start comment...I read it as Head Start becomes necessary when an economy straddled with too much debt and expensives (which in a large part stem from these proposed policies) force a 2 income family (whether it's desired or not) simply because taxes are too high, cost of living is too high, and other forces are at work. "Good" is very often the enemy of Best. Obama's Julia deserves so much more! Not just a "Freedom from" but a "Freedom FOR".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4865004314650777465.post-7210352142592623012012-05-08T10:16:28.525-04:002012-05-08T10:16:28.525-04:00I find your whole fictionalized account of Julia i...I find your whole fictionalized account of Julia incredibly offensive and sarcastic. Just because YOU do not agree with Obama and what he represents does not give you a free pass to make a mockery of his policies. Not every woman wants to have a huge family. Not every woman wants to be a stay at home mother. It is all about choices and respecting different lifestyles. Oh and for the record? Not every child who goes to Head Start or another daycare/preschool program spends a grand total of three hours a day with their parents!Elizabethnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4865004314650777465.post-35025763863689695472012-05-05T10:00:00.642-04:002012-05-05T10:00:00.642-04:00I love it, Erika. I only fear that the picture &qu...I love it, Erika. I only fear that the picture "under Obama" would be much, much darker. Let us pray!!!mumsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4865004314650777465.post-86705454098831760302012-05-04T22:49:24.543-04:002012-05-04T22:49:24.543-04:00Wow. I just read their version. It is...so...weird...Wow. I just read their version. It is...so...weird. Is that really convincing anyone?Faith E. Houghhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03823750019164801104noreply@blogger.com